Artemis Leonardou has been shipping products since she was 14: AI tutors, booking platforms, 15+ hackathon builds, several of them winners. Then, with AI making the building part easy, she went the other way, into infrastructure and reliability, where things break and nobody has written down the answer. Now a software engineer and DevRel at NOFire AI, she joins us for a fire-side chat conversation about what a generation that never knew expensive code chooses to learn instead, and where she thinks the hard, valuable work is moving. The conversation will be moderated by Irina Achim.